With a little time to reflect on what I posted, the thanks thing isn't the big thing...it's the not finding out what the problem turned out being that irks me. A great deal of the intrigue of this board is that it gives us really neat puzzles to work on, and then it becomes like finding missing pieces in a jigsaw puzzle when people don't come back and let us all know. Dan the Appliance Man usually puts the note in his postings to "let us know how it turned out". I think a permanent note at the top of the page would be appropriate. But bottom line...just the ability to help someone is usually its own reward. And of course, being able to badger you about your paint elitism...TeeHee, Kizmet
ps, Try as I might, I have not found a good posting to suggest a Navy needle gun as a repair solution.