Thanks for the suggestion guys, however even though there is one foot between floor and ground, there is NO access at all. Except for a cat or two and an occasional skunk :-) The only openings are where the plumbing and electrical come in from the basement since this room was an add on to the original house. Oh well it looks like I might be in for ripping up floors this weekend. Thanks for the help! If you come up with other ideas please let me know!